The official Jason Spencer aka "EmpStylex" aka "EmperorS" NFO File v1.5 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 06-23-98 - What's new? + Lots of fun stuff added right under the general info. It just strikes me weird that a big multi-million dollar company has to reply to little old me and my article. most of this shit must be right :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- General Info: What is this doc for? This iNFO file has been created to inform you about the bullshit self owned and run company named Stylex Communications. The owner "Jason Spencer" who registered the domain to "225 VanHorne Avenue, Suite 203 Willowdale, Ontario M2J 2T9 CA" and who's phone number is/was "416-757-4554" or "416-492-3349" is a lying sack of shit and this iNFO file will show why. Also, he is some information on Stylex USA (Jason's partner in crime) If you live in or near Davie, FL and would like to pay a visit to Stylex USA (this address was the return address to the z64's and v64's that were/are shipped from Stylex) just go to http://www.lycos.com and it'll give you directions to the below address. Stylex USA Inc. 5722 S Flamingo Road Suite 316 Davie, FL 33330 If you would like to go directly to Lyocs and the url is (this might be expired by the time you read this) http://in-100-ifs.lycos.com/_1_254504798__lycos.lycos/proxymapms;XNavigation=ppl&QA=5722+S+Flamingo+Road&QC=davie&QS=fl&country=&inccookie=ASPSESSIONID%3DUBYJVPIYBIYWMRVO&--to=http://206.129.166.134/mapsdk/map.asp?L=USS0409&CLat=26.0512762643242&CLong=-80.3130663942279&Icon=1&Label=5722+S+Flamingo+Rd&Alt=7&PLat=26.0512762643242&PLong=-80.3130663942279 [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Okay good! Finally this INFO FILE got enough people Stylex had to respond. Why would a multi-million dollar company have to explain themselves if the INFO FILE wasn't telling the truth? - That is my main question. Lets take some time and explore thier page, which is located at ... http://www.stylex-usa.com/thevividtruth/ I am just doing to be picking random BS out to explain. > Since Mr. Bull is in direct competition with Stylex Communications, he > has chosen not to do two things in each of the offered "cases". First of all, Vivid Barrier is in no way in direct competition with Stylex Communications. They don't even sell the same things! > 1) Follow up on what Stylex Communications has done to fix the given problem It is my finding Stylex has only solved the problem after it has been said in this INFO FILE. NtRanger came to me, and explained his story with the intention of making Stylex fix it. They did, but only because it was posted in this INFO file. > 2) Offer Stylex Communication's side of the story. Why should you even be concerned if these are lies? What kind of multi- million dollar company cares about a damned INFO file on the internet that only a few people know about in an IRC room? > Ask yourself if a one man operation has the funds (or for that matter > could accumulate the funds) to back the development of the Nemesis 64, > a project that is costing several hundreds of thousands of dollars. > Also, ask yourself how a sophisticated device such as the Nemesis 64 > is could possibly be developed by one person. Ohhh.... This is real good. At first Stylex claimed to be only selling these units, now they say they make them? I asked them before many times who makes them, and they said they don't, but are just going to be selling them for the company that does! Lying bitches! > Case 4 > Wont fix his problems > First let's offer the follow-up to the situation listed. The person > using the nick Zombini has since received a brand new ATAPI internal > ZIP drive and while no further communication has taken place with this > customer, it has been verified that they received the brand new > replacement drive. He only recieved it because he came to us for his help! Stylex denied him before, but as soon as we posted it here it got taken care of, funny how that shit happens :) > About Stylex USA > Stylex USA is purely a distribution point for Stylex Communications. > The current purpose of Stylex USA is to bring even lower prices to > Stylex customers by cutting shipping costs. Shipping from Canada to > the United States is much more expensive and complicated than shipping > within the United States. Moving the central distribution point to the > United States allows Stylex to bring better service and price to its > customers. Stylex USA will also be the primary distribution point for > US Nemesis 64 Sales. Well this is funny. Back when they used to sell Z64's and V64's they used to charge shipping from Canada, but many people who paid for that extra shipping got thier unit from someplace in the USA. Funny huh? > All of Stylex USA's operations are handled at a location away from > the address on Mr. Bull's URL. This is due to several influences, > including legal and financial reasons. It is for these same reasons > we do not offer local pickups. By conducting operations in a seperate > location, we are able to keep costs down and hand the savings off to our > customers. The address in the topic of the FAQ was visited, it was an apartment bulding. Do you usually rent a residental place to do business out of? Can't a multi-million dollar company afford an office? > Case 6 > "What an asshole huh?" > First of all, Stylex will most likely NOT be selling the MGD2. Second, > the $200 cost (Stylex's cost) is an incorrect and gross misrepresentation > of what the cost of the units for Stylex would be. Third and most bizarre > of all, Mr. Bull has decided to auction off an MGD2 of his own with bidding > starting at $500 after claiming that Stylex's alleged price of $399 would > be a rip-off. It's kind of funny that Stylex denies that they are going to sell the MGD2 when EmpStylex himself said he was going to in #n64roms. m0tion can verify this since Emp gave m0tion price quotes on it. As for John Bull selling the MGD2 at a highprice ... here is his official responce. yes I said his prices will bullshit but then you sell yours for higher? hehe :) he was going to be selling 100's of them he claimed I cam across one unit, and figured i would try to sell it but for $500? well, $500 at first, then I realised that that was too much, so I figured i'd sell it for $400 which I might add is $1 more then Stylex claimed to going to sell thier for how can you prove stylex said that? on www.stylex.com they claim to be going to start selling backup units for the old 8/16/24 bit systems any copier buff should know the only copier for the neo neo (which is the only 24 bit system) is the MGD2 also, he announced it in the chan for those of you who remember, and also m0tion got price quotes from him :) and for this statement, "So, Mr. Bull, let us openly ask you, exactly why is it you think "stylexsucks"?" I would be fine and dandy if Emp would unban me from #n64roms, I'll even stop advertising the INFO File you write well, you don't want to go doing that Do you think he will let you back into #n64roms? i dunno Well, all of this is just more fuel for my fire. I wounder how things are going to turn out? [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Case 1: NtRanger *UPDATE* After this log was posted NtRanger problems were fixed, I doubt they would have been if it wasn't for posting this. NtRanger came to me and complained about an experience he is/was having with Jason. Here is our chat log. NtRanger buffer saved on Wed Jun 03 17:24:17 1998 it was supposed to be here yesterday........... <(censored)> that sucks actually monday............ <(censored)> Really <(censored)> What did Emp say about your v64 not showing up? <(censored)> Well, if it never shows up at all, you can always report him to the BBB he said they can't guarentee when my package will show, but I said when I pay for next day, I expect next day......... I ordered it like that because I am leaving tonight for 3 months, and wanted it before i left......... I have reported people to the BBB and they don't do jack shit........... <(censored)> So you paid for Next Day and you didn't get next day? nope yes I paid for next day, and no I haven't gotten it yet......... <(censored)> okay I am talking with him now....... he said it went USPS???? <(censored)> What? <(censored)> He advertises on his page that it goes UPS or FEDEX <(censored)> He is a liar that what I am bustin' his chops about now.......... <(censored)> heh <(censored)> you should save your conversation <(censored)> and send it to me <(censored)> I'll make good use of it <(censored)> What is his excuse? <(censored)> Whatever it is, you didn't get what you paid for, I would request a refund on next day shipping <(censored)> and demand the system now <(censored)> hello? ya <(censored)> So, what did he end up saying? he told me.......... Hang on for a sec, I will take care of it.......... and thats it <(censored)> Nothing more? <(censored)> No refund? not yet.......... dunno yet <(censored)> okay, let me know what he ends up telling you <(censored)> He'll probably blame it on someone else <(censored)> but it's his fault he sent it USPS <(censored)> he can't deny that is it him selling the stuff or another company? <(censored)> I think he's a 1 man show <(censored)> with a partner in the USA <(censored)> to handle us shit, if that whoa! I thought this was a big business?? <(censored)> No way <(censored)> he's not even registered <(censored)> he claimed it's a multi million dollar thing <(censored)> No multi mil dollar business is not registered <(censored)> also, he registered the www.stylex.com domain himself damn........ I think I just fucked up............ I shoulda never ordered from him........ what happens if it doesn't work? I bet he will stiff me <(censored)> Well, if you get the unit, and it doesn't work <(censored)> send it to CarlInd <(censored)> I am very close with them <(censored)> you can ask them about me if you want :) <(censored)> anyway, they can fix them kewl, thanks........... <(censored)> Hopefully you get your unit me to.......... [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] It seems as though NtRanger ordered a v64 from Jason paid for express delivery which is 1 day, and never got the unit the next day. I thought this would be a great way to start off the iNFO file to show you one example of the kind of shit Jason pulls. Now, when VividXL (Vivid Barrier rep) told everyone about this, Jason perm banned him. This shit has gone too far I think. Looks like someone paid Stylex for 1 day shipping, unit soposed to be there on Monday, but isn't now, hmmm, waste of time and money, also, the unit was sent USPS, when they are said to be sent FEDEX or UPS on www.stylex.com time to upgrade i think p133 *** QSharp (KillerBee@tor-pm20.074084.aracnet.net) has joined #n64roms <_Riddler_> I just went from a P166 to a P233MMX <_Riddler_> only cost me $60 <_Riddler_> cause I sold my P166 for $60 Vivid get your facts <_Riddler_> (the P233MMX was $120) The amount was $289 COD is that p2?? COD is USPS FEDEX does COD If they wanted UPS 1 day the cost wouldn't have been $289 now would it? *** _UNCLE98_ has quit IRC (Leaving) *** J-M (~J-M@modem9.wlv.ac.uk) has left #n64roms So shut the fuck up heh, another BS lie <_Riddler_> no <_Riddler_> standard Pentium Thats it you're gone for good drum roll EmpStylex: why? *** [TCM] has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) Let him stay! I'm tired of it the tension rises He runs with any little bs he gets Emp: just ignore him! get your facts bs? Fuck him and his bs *** Tyrant has quit IRC (ircd.concentric.net irc.mcs.net) i get it *** F-FiRE (fire@206.130.20.78) has joined #n64roms cow poo *** Sabre` (sabre@206.139.250.128) has joined #n64roms *** supercows (world@193.252.202.127) has joined #n64roms *** _Riddler_ (diablo@sid16.revealed.net) has left #n64roms *** Jenkens (junta@greg150.pcisys.net) has joined #n64roms *** QSharp (KillerBee@tor-pm20.074084.aracnet.net) has left #n64roms Jammin: shut up. *** PDaSilva (UNREAL@mppp004.ppp.Uni-Marburg.DE) has joined #n64roms ooohhhhh(with handbag up to mouth) *** stustu (~stu@p76.x2.u-net.net) has joined #n64roms *** angst sets mode: +b *!*@*.cle1.da.uu.net Session Close: Wed Jun 03 17:43:15 1998 [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Case 2: Nemesis64 Sales As a lot of you know a company named "Vivid Barrier" which Jason has been attacking recently was going to re-sell the Nemesis64 units that Jason is soposed to be selling come September. Vivid Barrier was all go for this until Jason told them that he was opening a Stylex USA and that the units could be purchased there also. Seeing that there is no reason to re-sell and compete against the people who can in the end sell them cheaper then you Vivid Barrier dropped out and told why on thier page. Suddenly Stylex USA only sells to re-sellers and not to the public anymore, and in a chat session in #n64roms on EFNET, where Jason hangs out under the nick name "EmpStylex" he (jason) told everyone in the room that Stylex USA was never going to sell to the public, and that Vivid Barrier made up the story. [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Case 3: Vivid Barrier vrs Stylex Vivid Barrier has always offered SF2 Backup Units for a fair price, (hey everyone that sells something does it to make a profit) so when John Bull III, the president of Vivid Barrier started complaining about the BullShit Jason has been doing, Jason started selling SF2 Units at so near the re-sellers cost that he makes no profit, there is no way to compete with him, so resulting in Vivid Barrier going to loose all sales to Jason, when the only reason Jason is doing this is to destroy Vivid Barrier for talking out against him. Now VividXL is permbanned because of it. [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Case 3: Can't answer a simple question Here is just a little tidbit about Jason avoiding answering a simple question directly. You would think if you have a team of people working for you, you would at least know how many people that is. Session Start: Wed Jun 03 23:12:10 1998 hey how many work for you yo how many people work for you a bunch how many? -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- Link with monitor.primenet.com[(+)irc@206.165.111.241] established: TS link -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- Server monitor.primenet.com[irc@206.165.111.241] closed the connection -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- monitor.primenet.com had been connected for 0 days, 0:00:27 -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- monitor.primenet.com was connected for 27 seconds. 5644/0 sendK/recvK. u there yes Bunch = ? how many is a bunch Why does it matter? why cant you tell me hello ? ok its very simple How many people work for YOU Why does it matter? I am just wandering Why cant you answer a simple question Why can't you give a good reason? Because im wandering how you get all these units out in time and how you test them test what? the Vs to see if they work properly 4h burn in test So how amny people work for you run full test *** Malaka has left IRC Can you answer the question now Answer mine I did I gave reasons I didn't see any of them. Hey Jason ANSWER MY QUESTION PLESAE -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- Received KILL message for Boty. From kaycee- Path: irc.best.net[irc@206.86.0.23]!ircd.txdirect.net!stealth.sat.txdirect.net!kaycee- (TakerOver Fool) -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- Received KILL message for Nudist. From kaycee- Path: irc.best.net[irc@206.86.0.23]!ircd.txdirect.net!stealth.sat.txdirect.net!kaycee- (You have no password set.) -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- K-line active for Teresa__[hot@host-209-214-62-39.ilm.bellsouth.net] u there yes cant you answer it its a easy question I dont need a reason Then I don't need to answer you. i thought you had good support and you cant even answer a question about your buissness Man please answer this easy question you a bunch of people Answer mine and now you cant give the exact amount what is your question Why can't you give a good reason? Ok I want to know because I'm wandering how you get all your units out on time and how you have such good support I want to know how amny people answers the phones I bet its just you -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- Received KILL message for puppetz. From billn Path: usr04.primenet.com!billn (no. I mean it. shoo.) Ok Mr.spencer please answer my question no Why not I answered yours its very easy to answer Why cant you answer it Is your company even registered? Since it has no effect on your order and you can't give a valid reason I won't/ -irc-w.primenet.com- *** Notice -- Received KILL message for puppetz. From billn Path: usr04.primenet.com!billn (Flood!) Why do I need reason So long as we provide you with the best price and service what we do here is of no concern to you. We? it seems its only you If you wish to think that, thats fine. Again what difference does it make? Then why cant you answer it It makes no difference just a simple question No Sorry Is your name Jason? If you have a question about your order let me know Anything else I won't answer. And no it isn't Jason Spencer that is I dont care if its only you You get your units out working and that is all that matters If you don't care then stop wasting my time. so it is only you ok its cool If it was how is it that I'm in Toronto but your unit shipped from the US? If i were making money like you I woulddo the same thing Can you tell me that? Did I fly to the US and ship it? why get employs when you can do it yourself you have another partner Because I can't fly to the US everyday to ship orders so one in Canada and one in UD Us that is Oh so now its 2... From 1 to 2. Whats next 3? One for yours in Canada Stop wasting my time and another in the Us If you want to be a jackass do it to someone else. Im not being a jackass Am i cussing at you no Im having a polite conversation I thought canadians were nice and clean No well later You're wasting my time sorry for bothering you No No later If you have a tech Q ask then dont speak if not, don't bother me When is my V coming here by thursday no and will it work by the end of the week so friday? ok later thanks sorry to bother you Session Close: Wed Jun 03 23:38:26 1998 [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Case 4: Wont fix his problems Here is some more proof that this claimed multi-million dollar company is just a bunch of horseshit. Zombini buffer saved on Sat Jun 20 14:52:39 1998 Hey, I have a story about how Stylex ripped me off... JellyB told me that you would add it to a txt file, if I told you... <> how so? Ok, here goes... I ordered a z64 from Stylex about 1 month ago, and when it came, the internal zip drive did not work... I told EmpStylex about it and he said that he was sorry and that he would get another zip drive as soon as possible and send it to me. <> Did you send your old non working zip drive back? I have reminded him of this every day for the past month and every day he told me that he was working on it, or that he was getting a shipment from the supplier... And he still hasn't sent it... He never asked me to, until this last week, and he still says that he doesn't have a replacement... <> wow for multi-million dollar company don't you think they could afford to buy a $100 zip drive? Should I send it? If I send it, will he keep it...from what I have seen he doesn't seem that reliable! Yeah, that's what I said! <> If I were you I would report him to the BBB in Canada and the USA Where in the USA? oh...ok... <> When you got your Z64 <> where was it sent from? let me see... <> the return address? Stylex USA Inc. 5722 S Flamingo Road Suite 316 Davie, FL 33330 (hand-lettered) <> heh <> I would report him to the BBB in FL then <> call like 441, get the BBB in your area, get the FL BBB #, call them and report what has happened <> also, ask if they ever heard of them <> explain to them what Stylex sells <> ect... :) <> that'll get em heh... <> cuz, you might never get your zip drive I will do that, cuz this really pisses me off... <> and if you do that, you might not get it either <> and, he should send you it no matter what you say <> or do <> because it's not your fault it is broken Yeah, I know... Well, Thanks for the info... <> np c-ya! End of Zombini buffer Sat Jun 20 14:52:39 1998 [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Case 5: Vivid Barrier VS Stylex Round 2 Well, it looks as if Jason is going to also be selling the Doctor Jr cheaper and almost near cost also, of course, much less than Vivid Barrier sells it to even ruin Vivid Barrier more. The funny thing is Emp himself has been quoted on saying that the units are shit, and not to buy one. Well, it looks like this mother fucker is still going at it strong. I wounder who will win? And I wounder who will still be alive to keep thier winnings :) [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Case 6: Stylex doing it again As of now (or soon) Stylex will be offering the MGD2 Backup Units. Just to let you know each unit costs under $200 which he in turn sells for $399 - $499 (thanks to m0tion for the price info) Also, Stylex will be once again selling the Z64 units, which Jason has bashed and bashed in the past saying they are shit and Stylex would have nothing to do with him. What an asshole huh? [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] CASE 7: Z64 with an attitude Well, basically, you can just read the below log and it'll basically explain itself. Good thing, I'm getting sick of writing :) Guest buffer saved on Mon Jun 22 01:58:06 1998 hey <> hi i have some comments to add about ur stylexsux.txt u know, i'm one of the victims that received a broken z64 <> oh really ok....start listening i bought a z64 from stylex...right and once i receive my z64...of cuz, i'm happy.... when i open it up..i saw a receipt..of HARRISON ELEC..... i'm wondering why it's not sytlex inc..or etc.. whatever... <> wow eventhough the name is not "SYTLEX whatever" , the address is froma CA!! the address if from CA!!!!!!!!!!! CALIFORNIA u know and then....i'm not worry about his address..what so ever... <> California is where the Z64's are made by Harrison Electronics i opened up my z.......and i read the instuction....and how come i missed a ZIP DISK!??!?! MISSING ZIP DISK u know <> that sucks and then......i try to play arond my z64..and the ZIP DRIVE IS FUCKED a FUCKED ZIP DRIVE <> jesus Yeah,, i was very pissing off <> i would be also and then i'm trying to tell emp about it... probably it's a refurbish z64... refurbished.. <> hmmm u know... <> What did he do to fix it? HE DIDN'T he said i opened the Z64!!! <> What did he tell you? ok... HE SAID I OPENED THE Z64..the warrenty is fucked... damn, i was fuckign piss....i bought a broken z64.. and then i called iomega and replaced it myself.....(zip drive) <> yes, but you shouldn't of told him about openeing it :) ..... since that.....i never buy and ask emp questions... <> I wouldn't either <> You should really let me use this in my FAQ well there is not stickers said 'if open, warrenty valad" well...i'm quite stupid..that i told him i opened =~((( so.......i'm stupid...=~( got ripped <> not stupid, but he should of at least done something if there is a stickers like "warrenty vailad, if open" i could still arguing with him,,, that i didn't open it..but in this case..which is not.. no sticker...so....=~( i never told anybody about this u know but after i read the .txt........it's very funny....u know fake ADDRESS.. i wanna know about the fake Canda Address...and phone number...geez and....he said z64 is bette rthan v64..and than......he switched....and said....V64 is better now <> oh <> I know what he said <> he used to make fun of the v64 i saw alot ppl were arguing emp denied what he said..about z64 is better than v...... <> then he quits selling z64 and makes fun of z64 <> to sell v64 yeah,, he used to....make alot fun about v64..and he denied everything <> Yes, I know he lied EVEROBYD know he lied i told u everything about my incidents =~( <> yes, and I'd like to put it to some use humm, well actualy yes u could use this...but....i'm afraid..once emp. got the .txt i'll be in deep trouble <> I doubt it <> but it's sad that you have to be scared of him Okay, thats all.. End of Guest buffer Mon Jun 22 01:58:06 1998 [-Jason-Spencer-iNFO------------------------------------------------] Final Case: Vivid Barrier FAQ Session Start: Thu Apr 16 01:15:07 1998 * Logging EmpStylex to: [EmpStylex.log] like, ping from HFHSHHFJSF ect... So can I leech any more info from you? The info can't be given out. heh Got to give me credit for trying I am as bad as the next guy Don't ask man okay I guess I known enough now If you wire early then ask hehe! Make sur eyou wire 300 more my end hehehe Admin fee then I would expect a beta unit, unknowningly showing up on my doorstop Ah one thing for you yeah? did you get that chip price yet? I would take a whole unit over it's specs anyday Naw, you must understand though Beta/Dev units cost $1500 each and will only be given out to programmers. We will have special units made for resellers. These units will be shipped for free to every reseller for contest use. That getting the $3,000 isn't as easy as for me as it is for you? Contest use cool Ship an extra this way, and you'll defently get that SF2 in the mail a bit soon than christmas :) These units are for contest use only. darn Oh well And are clear cased. at least I wont have to shell out my own money wow! So you can tell its an offical contest unit. That will draw attention Will you do the contest, then have each person in the corresponding area ship them Or are we all responcible for our own contests we will host it And I guess, no one can charge for a contest, since it's illegal in the US now Damn ... Now I have to work my arse off for $3,000 If you play your cards right you can make 50+ US on every unit I just got a new job And sell 100 a month I plan to make $80 each unit then again $500 extra a month doesn't sound that bad to me How would I play my cards right? I mean, I could use all the advice I can get right now ? How would I play my cards right? As you said I mean If I could just flop out the $3,000 I would Depends.. Hard to say. You must reach 100 asap to make some real money And make a new corp account place 3100 in it wire 3k to us leave 100 I am constantly thinking of ways to make my site better, And place every cent you make from the nem in it never spend any And every 300 made order 1 more nem. yeah, but i wont get a good deal unless i order 10 at a time How do I make a Corp Account? Or business account We found that you update the design and go with it. Do I just ask? We like our new site look. What about my site? it's new look You must register the company first. you site is just 3 tables in a table :) but attractive Looks is ok but its very plain How do I register my company? I like the plain style that is what I was aiming for Our site looks complex...lots of info at once You must find out in your city how to register a company. Here in Toronto its $50 US No ID needed... Fill out the name, your name, address, kind of business. why couldn't i just use a regular checking account Get it stamped...leave 10 mins Would my business type be "Re-Seller" take the form to the bank and have an account open under that name. Because wires need a account name. And it looks bad when its to a person. When you say city, like cityhall? oh Cuz I have no clue where to register a company at ... So you don't see www.vividbarrier.com being a reality until after Christmas? You have 4 months lots of time I guess Correct we're busy right not. now why so late you must be really busy hire more help (caugh ... me .. caugh ...) After x-mas we will also extend cc options. CC ? Credit Card? I wish I could offer that yes Allows you to offer it no shit We take payment You ship we keep the 300 for the unit you take the whatever else. and send us a new unit? no or do you send a few units first If spaman ordered one for $389 using visa right okay You would have 10 units in stock... why not do that at first now, we would get the money and approval numver. number Next we would send you mail/fax to have a unit shipped to abc.... You would ship one And when you order 10 more units from us, one is free. Um I didn't catch all of that Spaman orders one And the 80 profit is held until it collects over a number of units for a wire or its used toward more units. ok lettme see if this is right ok coming new years you send us 10 units for stock right spaman pays your cc $389 we send him 1 you keep $300 right right send us $89 right no ok lets start again just explain that last part 1) Sometime in Jan we offer CC to stylex customers we then offer it to you. someone...ex, spaman orders from you with a cc at $389 US They would send you the name, cc number, ex date. you fax it to us we process the order if all is cool we will fax back within 10 mins saying to go ahead and ship the unit now the 10+ units you have in stock you paied for...none were free. follow? okay, so far so good ok Now...here we are, you're down 1 unit, we're up $389 So...we will pocket 300 us. And credit you 89+ at this time... You will continue on as normal When you need more units We will add up all the order syou took via cc. If for ex it was 6 we would ship 6 of 10 units at no cost. Because the cc paied for them. the 89 per unit would collect, at the time you order you can choose a wire for cash or use it for units. Follow? yep This allows for more sales And little effort Always the best way if you ask me. or could I just opt if I sell 10, to buy 5 more, and keep the rest of the money, if I already have like 20 in stock Like if I needed it for some reason, like gas or a car payment, or a 47 inch big screen tv Well you have no reason to order more until you need too. I guess but if for some reason, I needed my cash, you would wire it right regardless if I ordered more or not If we have 6 or 7 orders paied by cc and you want all the cash we will send it. okay correct Just needed to know that, incase Cool I think Hap and I are going to join forces cool I would like to eventually open up a real video game store, dealing in imports and rare items, along with rentals and normal games Well teams are perfect Will have to go to school for Sales and Marketing though :) However they cause problems when dealing with money Thats why we never get into it. Yes, him and I are going to have to work out details, like money I guess It would be easier if he lived next to me, or in the same town school...ha! I'm still thinking of how it can be worked out, and it's too late to think now ... Well, unless someone was to teach me the trade ... I have no marketing know how yet I run this department And do a good job at it I might add.. but, who taught you? no one you must of had some sort of experience I find it easy like, did you sell your NES games when you were a kid no I'm sure it's easy, but knowning what to say and when to say it I've always collected thats the fun part I'm no at all dumb, but, you would think one would need to be trained to do such a job but I guess some people are just naturals I have 7 pages of info I know everyone would kill for. As you use that for your benefit :) I could tell you in detail exactly what you will see and when from now till october its all been planed. And its funny how it works. Hehe well You should see by our know how a few reviews soon Like..."New backup unit, but no info" on a few sites. hmmm Then a makers name and date...price are you going to give Dextrose an unit We don't have any effect on when or by who...but you will see it. yes so, are you going to suggest a $389 US Price No No I can see sites with info for your unit but all guessing what is your suggested price going to be for the US re-sellers? You should see something on dextrose when its updated cuz I think $389 with shipping is fair All we want to see is the nemesis name Rest is worthless. We will not talk price at all. why? Sites will not know price until posted on stylex. if you don't mind me asking oh but we promissed lower then the z which you have to remember What about my pre-orders If someone wants to pay in full for a pre-order Your price is fine what should I tell them Its x-mas oh that was what I was talking about wait until after x-mas.. my price not your price then announce a new low price. how low? like $369 that looks good $359 + shipping heh Stylex will advertise a $359 price From day 1 gah! Exactly...high shipping oh but its the look of $359 that counts. $59 shipping right its lower then the z by far. oh no well around $50 ? may be 40+ as long as it's more than mine :) What would you do though, if someone bought all 500 from you If you have to cheat go for it then charged $1,000 each Advertise $359 I want to stay below your price but make shipping $15 when it may only be $7 heh shipping and "Handling" costs That will sell way more then $389 Shipping and looking at the neat box. "Handling" will be the person who brings them to the post office for me or, having UPS come get it one of the two ups is more expensive then the post office UPS is $15 with pickup for 2 day in the US For the z64 the Nem will be lighter and smaller then the z64 wow so 15 tops kewl that saves me a trip every day $3 for 7 day $40 to Canada even though the postoffice is 2 blocks from my house also then why do you charge so much for the v64 shipping? UPS will make a deal with you So as they cut 30% you don't say a word. why would they cut 30% ? v64's box is large Your influence well i don't need the box Because, as you ship the same package offten they will give you a disscount. oh kewl neat stuff What if I wanted the v64 ups ground from you? w/o the box not offered box is a must or, if you have any used ones gah, why a box? and UPS/FedEx will not ship anything but 2 day over the border how about regular mail? v64 would never make it a alive without it. oh regular mail sucks 2 weeks and $5 less. Do you see the price of the V going down when the Nem comes out? no Cuz if I want to get 10 nems, I cannot buy a damn thing from now to then the doc is going to die off What about a DOC2 ? Bung will make a new one Do you think they will outdue the nem? Bung is known to kill one for a new one. hell no I mean, anything can be outdone In fact Bung will lose if they make a doc 2 if bung made the nem they would sell it for 1800 So what could they offer that would make it better for under 300? no... What made you guys decide to enter the market for backup units anyway? I can see Bung getting a nem and giving up. heh a number of things Stylex wanted too for years but never had the tech guys to do it is Stylex the offical label for the Nemesis64 ? Yes ack, it's 2:00 am EST I got to go ... Our logo is on the front and in the bios hehe later try to find out the prices on that memory I get payed on the 20th ok 8t3r Session Close: Thu Apr 16 02:06:14 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 14:37:10 1998 heh I got all the people in #emu talking about the Nemesis yo cool They are all trying to guess what it can do And I wouldn't tell them but some got close like Zelda/CDR (maybe) ect... They said, like if it could do CDR then they would buy one :) So at least, now the #emu ppl know about it Session Close: Thu Apr 16 14:39:15 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 14:39:30 1998 Did you get chip prices yet? Session Close: Thu Apr 16 14:39:41 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 14:39:45 1998 no oh ... okay, well cya later tonight later Session Close: Thu Apr 16 14:40:04 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 21:03:29 1998 Hi I just got a #9 Graphic Excellerator and a QuickCAM Session Close: Thu Apr 16 21:03:49 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 21:05:34 1998 ok Just thought I would let you know I'm a bit happy This video card makes everything much clearer and the video phone r0x j00 Connetix QucikCam? yes .... why? Do you have one I need to test the internet chat out ! Session Close: Thu Apr 16 21:07:52 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 21:07:53 1998 Piece of shit why? try it I didn't pay for it, someone sent it for a $25 credit on a SF2 one of the worst camera on the net Well, it works and I didn't pay for it ... :) We have them here and I gave them away heheh We use Canon video cameras kewl what kind of software can I get out there for video chat iphone is nice iphone work work on my system anything else, that does video? should and easy to find people online It wont work with my soundcard bummer heh someone wants to know what the going price on a v64 is for a tradin torwards a nemesis how much do you give out for working used v64's? what the hell ahh u got it for 300 each 389 hell that is crazy How does this asshole know how much I am paying for them? he wanted to resell but he doesn't have the money now he's bugging me "/ignore" works yeah he's dumb he lives in CAN but wants to buy from the US I think he has no brains at all i know Session Close: Thu Apr 16 21:26:17 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 22:28:31 1998 damn Some dude got a copier from me and you know the SF2's interfere with some tv's ? and he wants to return it for a new one which I day I cannot do in my disclaimer which I "say" I cannot do in my disclaimer cuz it interferes with his TV like mine interferes with my old TV if you stated this on your site tell him where to read about it, then say all sales are final I have but he insists I sent him a bad unit and I checked it out fully before I sent it if it was damaged in mail i stated on the page that i'm not resposible for damaged mail Session Close: Thu Apr 16 22:34:02 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 22:34:49 1998 ok Session Close: Thu Apr 16 22:34:51 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 22:34:58 1998 should I just tell him to go away, and then have to deal with his bad mouthing me? Cuz this kinda sucks Session Close: Thu Apr 16 22:35:22 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 22:36:57 1998 yes It's Pandaman from the #n64roms room Session Close: Thu Apr 16 22:37:22 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 22:38:01 1998 ha Session Close: Thu Apr 16 22:38:04 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 16 22:41:11 1998 if i kept it and couldn't get it to work, could i send it back later and get a refund? Nope Why not just send it back to experiment with it and see if i can get it to work but when you get a new unit, and it does the same thing, you will either have to sell the SF2, or find a new TV It's up to you if I don't get it in the mail by the 20th you keep the one you have if i get it in the mail on the 19th i said why can't you give my money back after i can try to get it to wo hehe Session Close: Thu Apr 16 22:41:59 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 16:56:51 1998 am I allowed to give out that clear nem in my contest? Session Close: Fri Apr 17 16:57:06 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 16:57:27 1998 no no way to be sure we can have that version ready in time. Oh, I thought I might mention that, to make them want it more, oh well k Session Close: Fri Apr 17 16:57:53 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 16:58:00 1998 no it would only work if they knew for sure the nem was black oh yeah then they would kill for a clear one. Wow, they don't even know it's black? Session Close: Fri Apr 17 16:58:40 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 16:58:53 1998 They might Besides the name, they all have no clue. I assume they assume it's black, but I haven't told them We can change the colour at any time. I guess I think black would look the best We might make it pure white. unless you wanto to offer it in red/blue/black/white no v64 white, pure white. so that way ppl would have to buy more, the complete the collection :) Session Close: Fri Apr 17 16:59:59 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 16:59:59 1998 its hard to offer multi colour. Oh We need to have 500-1000 made in each colour. I was thinking of just offering like 50 one color It cost us around a quarter mill to make 1000. but 500 :) So we try not to mess around with a colour no one wants so they only cost $250 to build? That's a lot of cash yep You don't make that much yourselves when you sell to re-sellers then We're not trying too. build, package, test, ship. It adds up. test? that could take a while Extensive testing, or just a fast systems test? We're testing the Nem right now No fair! :) no when the nem is being made we will test each one for 10 mins then package oh cool Session Close: Fri Apr 17 17:07:26 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 17:29:50 1998 Oh yeah I got banned from #emu cuz I told them I was gonna sell Nemesis64's but wouldn't tell them about it but at least they were all talking about it Session Close: Fri Apr 17 17:30:16 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 17:31:05 1998 ok Session Close: Fri Apr 17 17:31:16 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 20:03:47 1998 And I know the unit is fine He says the onscreen bios menu is clear cool just when you go to play the game it messes up And that happens to me Also.... Anway ... Do you ever run into customers like this? Session Close: Fri Apr 17 20:04:50 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 20:05:33 1998 all the time And you just basically tell them to fuck off, nicely? Session Close: Fri Apr 17 20:05:51 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 20:06:11 1998 yes Session Close: Fri Apr 17 20:06:21 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 17 22:29:49 1998 Do you have any phat software for that camera of yours? Session Close: Fri Apr 17 22:30:38 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 18 20:52:23 1998 so so? We sell the v64 way less then them do you see them changing? so it doesn't matter tell him to hit the bricks I just emailed him telling him to go ahead and tell everyone. heh m0tion tells me he is putting up a page about the Nemesis64 w/info? no real info more free advertising oh heh He is bugging me for info ... I am playing with his mind play but never say any real facts Give me a bit more credit than that Thererectictly if one was going to sell the unit, one would have to experience it first heh Normaly that is true Yeah ... :) But most don't know the order of things That is what I told m0tion :) When a new product is made you have two kinds of resellers Those that are larger with more ext. These people can read a report and say yes or no to it. And those that need a preview. Well, there wouldn't be anything stopping me from flying up there and testing it before I buy 10 ... So that could be true. but, I will trust you people .... Well we won't show it off at all. we have a nem 3 Each prototype cost 3k to make I mean though, if I flew up there. And we now know for a fact that Nem3 isn't the final version its Nem5 Which is very sidderent. You would let me see it working different No We wouldn't I mean when the Nem is finilized You could have us at gun point and we wouldn't! hehe I mean when the Nem is finilized, if I wanted to fly up there, and check it out, before I bought 10, I could, right? When its finished and we all know that this in front of us is the final you can see it. That's what I meant to begin with ... :) You could but it cost less just to buy one and try it at home. Heh You will not do any of that When you see the offical feature list you will just sit back and laugh its that good. But the finilized unit will be done 1 month before it is sold right? Info in August, sold in September ... No I doubt I will laugh ... We will have a 100% feature list Aug 1 Pretty hard to amaze me ... Well, prolly as soon as I see some pix, Hap and I will send our $3,000 :) With stylex and my collection of hardware we have every unit ever made.... Its hard to so much as get me excited about a new game. This left me stuned I got the info about registered my company to collect taxes ... it's $25 25 is cool. Its nothing I know :) get the paper and get an account I plan to ... Anything goes wrong, get a new paper and new account. Simple as that heh :) its nothing. only if you get large...then you get stuck. why? Stuck in what fashion You have to avoid all personal info on your web site. No names Why? If you're large then its hard to drop you company name and start again. Why would I need to drop it then start again? personal info points directly to a one man operation. In case you owe cash. or got a bad rep Oh ... all kinds of reasons why companies change names. Yeah, as soon as I do this, I will change all the info to Vivid Barrier but I still have to leave my personal address setup a commercial bank account and before you leave ask for writen info on how to get a wire then just type it on the web site okay Did you like my Nemesis64 logo? As you may or may not know. It takes money to make it. Yes, money is the key to everything And the larger resellers this falla re going to clean house. whats the URL? http://members.tripod.com/~heXim/emu/NEMinfo.htm And the larger resellers this falla re going to clean house??? Yeah see.... the 500 for x-mas is the last chance to advertise Final stop as you may call it. After that the units popularity will fall to normal and stay as #1. Sort of like the v64 is now, its kick ass but nothing special because everyone is used to it. I still don't understand what that has to do with "And the larger resellers this falla re going to clean house" So all dec we will have people in here with the Nem telling how kick ass it really is. People that are die hard v/z users will quietly switch over....but ooops! No more left! That will leave a nice large gap when these people will have to sit in the channel and listen to nem stories but, how does that like go with the larger re-sellers cleaning house? Would I fall into that larger re-seller? What does that do for the larger resellers? Because we will ship 1500-2000 nems in Jan. Makes them more money ....... :) And all will sell within a month So you meant the re-sellers that make it through Christmas, are gonna see big $$$'cks You will lost cash because you have a delay in time...Shipping. lose. Those that have 100 units will sell all day non stop I will loose? My shipping will take 2-3 days While you will do the same for 3 days then run out...and have to wait 5 days to get more. Time frame will come down to cost. I can see many going 5 day I guess you have a point, but this isn't encouraging me to buy more at first, because, I am barely going to reach the $3,000, so this discourages me :( Because you will have more customers then units. Thats fantastic! What's that soposed to mean? In business thats the best you can ever ask for man. but didn't you just say that's it going to be bad to not have enough units and no you say it's fantastic? That shows you as soon as that 10 pack hits your door you might as well hold the UPS guy because they will right back on his truck. And this is going to help me win this Christmas? or not ... I stated that you will not make as much as you could. If I sell 10 You win no matter what I buy 12 I sell 12 I buy 14 You just don't win as much at a time..hehe Yeah, but there would be no possible way, unless I robbed a bank, to buy more than 10, if I can even get $3,000 by August I am going to work my ass off to get the $3,000 and hopefully I can get it ... We have a new HK reseller hinting to want over 1000. Why will it take 5 days to get the nems from you to me? Well, you are only making 500! For an order that big we would work on it. See, if this Nemesis selling thing works out good, it could help me start a real life for myself ha Heh, if the HK ppl buy 1000, then the US ppl are out of luck If I don't do good with this Nemesis64 thing, I bet i'll be stuck making $6.00 an hour for a long time heh 6......ouch I know, it sucks All day all I did was play KI2 arcade and got 100 US an hour. And I wish I could be that lucky ! So that is why I am really taking this Nem thing seriously Well with the right plan you can pull in a steady $5000-$8000 a month min. It's basically this, save up $3,000, win at Nemesis64, be able to pay for College and a Car, or be stuck making $6.00 an hour, and take like 4-7 more years to get enough money for college and a car :) My plan is this buy 10 buy more next time ect..... Until you sell out of you 500 You need to move to Toronto. College here is $1500 US a yea r and most things are 1-2 years Damn I want to be a computer programmer ... or own my own store one of the two So 7k gets you a nice set of wheels and a 2 year college deg. And all I have is an 8th grade education, so I got to take a lot of basic classes And you can get the cash for that in 1 month Yeah Hell you can get it this x-mas if you do it right *IF* but what can I do to help my chances? trust Besides buying 100 to start off with (that's out of the picture) trust? who you? Yourself first then in the nem Then in stylex Heh Do all that and $$ This will sell so well it won't be funny You don't know how much I'm been backstabbed so far, trust is hard for me .... I trust myself to do the right thing in the end I will trust in the Nemesis64 when I see it working We have a plan which will give you the chance to make 60% of your expected profit and allow you to sell over 300 units this x-mas. And I can trust you only if my $3,000 doesn't dissappear Emp: What is that? It's just hard to trust people on the internet, that's all ... Nothing personal ... I would like to point out that I make $1700 US a day Heh ... nice ... your 3k to me personally has no meaning. Okay ... "We have a plan which will give you the chance to make 60% of your expected profit and allow you to sell over 300 units this x-mas." Ellaborate on that a bit... ok i got the papers still here? yes this is a small reseller plan Nice one too. Okay. I told everyone this as well. ok We here at stylex don't care much for anything made over $300 If you make 80 per shot...thats nice follow? Yep We only want the 300 us each The first 10+ payment is needed in full. And if you buy a second 10 later on you have the chance to use this plan: Plan is: Buy 10 Sell 10 If your sales are so high that you have 10 units a week and have sales for 20. Then you may sell the other 10 without having the +10 in stock. How does it work... We want 300 US each and lets say 40 to ship You want $389 So sell +10 more then you have Take the money and wire it to us but only 300+40 You keep the remander And we will ship the units within 10 mins and send you all the trackers Users are happy You're happy And of course we're happy So, you send the Nemesis64's directly to the USERS? yeah Cuz I pay the $40 shipping For each one but we charge you reseller cost and you keep the profit And I keep $49 Sounds cool You lose a little money in the end....But you have the chance to sell near unlimited number without paying upfront. I make less .... but my service isn't comprimised You also sell more So I would wire you the cashflow, then send you a list of who to send each one to? yeah and we will ship them out within a few mins I'll do that .... sounds much better ... then waiting 5-7 days to get more .... You will still order more... But while you want while you wait sell 10-20 more units get your 10 sell and make 100% profit run out, order more then sell off us and make 60% profit Why then would I have to buy the first $3,000 ? Could I just get payments for 10 then send you the money? Oh .. nevermind, if I only sold 4 then I would be out of luck ... The first 2, 10 packs is a sign that you're for real. I see... And it also shows you that it sells. If done right you can sell 20 before nov 15th then its open for over 1 month to sell off as many as you can. Thats like 10k worth of profit before x-mas if you try I'll try but what can I do on my end that would help me sell more? Better page What could I do to make it better? Copy your format :) no It was a joke if you did that it would cause problems Hmmm What should I do with my page then? use some colour man! its 99% white with gray Oh I thought that would look classy What about the layout? So did we Color could be added quickly but our new format is.....odd looks better we feel So just color? Or do you not like my layout? not for me to say just work on it higher tech higher tech? you're a game page! visit the big game pages see how they look I hate frames with a Passion I'll whip something up tonight later later Session Close: Sat Apr 18 22:02:40 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 18 22:03:10 1998 oh... later tonight or right now? now why? if you want to keep it man do so Not like i'm forcing you no just a suggestion not at all It's a good suggestion besides I'm bored cool you need ppv big fight on now Who? beats me hehe not my sport but its free so we all watch hehehe some prince guy quick question In a Table, what is the command to set the tables background picture? hit www.stylex.com and grab the s-code heh do you like java? We made a kick ass java menu Really? never used but it gives you some ideas. was designed for 2 kinds of sites all black or black down the left and a white right side yeah, my new site is black, orange and green Session Close: Sat Apr 18 22:23:48 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 01:07:51 1998 yo Damn HapEQb^3 got his SF2 from me he says it will play 8megabit games so..? but when he tries to put a anthing larger it wont work he did a systems test it's says the memory is fine but he cannot get any 16megabit + game to work First this dude's interferes with his TV, and now HapEQB3 cannot convert them right I'm pissed You need warranty or quit while you're ahead. If this gets out the nem sales will fall. What am I soposed to do with the units that are fad? What am I soposed to do with the units that are bad? Why buy off a rip off artist...you don't want this. Hap is cool, exchange his I can't! It's not like I have $172 laying around you should stop selling I really don't want to even think about that. I mean they work fine when I test them I send them out in 100% working order It's not my fault! you know.... not the right attitude What am I soposed to do? I am sorry about it I mean, really sorry By your rules you say fuck it and move on but there isn't anything I can do You can have him send it here for repairs We might be able to do something Thanks Session Close: Sun Apr 19 01:19:07 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 01:45:41 1998 ? The SF2 just didn't like the SNES game he had plugged into it He put in FF3 as the cart cool and it worked fine Session Close: Sun Apr 19 01:46:00 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 01:46:49 1998 cool Yeah, I'm glad Pandaman is the only one that cannot fix his stuff Probably trying to use it on a 1970s tv Session Close: Sun Apr 19 01:47:19 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 17:37:25 1998 heh VII. Other notes The PSF2 is a high interference machine. When it's plugged into your SNES and has power running to it, it will cause major interference with your TV. This isn't a faulty unit. Just keep your SNES about 5-10 feet from your TV. I've been told that using the AV cables as opposed to the coax RF switch reduces some of the interference, but I've haven't been able to confirm it. (Old TV). Radio Shack also sells interference surpressors, but I haven't tried those either. Still, it's not a defect with your unit, just the way it is. THat is in the FAQ on my page He doesn't understand that this shit happens and cannot get it through his head the "All sales are final" means "All sales are final" See I know I am right now! Not like lastnight, where I could of been wrong, it was just HapEQB^3 had the wrong cart in the SF2 Session Close: Sun Apr 19 17:38:37 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 17:54:11 1998 could you be a whitness to something for me? come to #sf2 Session Close: Sun Apr 19 17:57:41 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 18:03:24 1998 I shouldn't take it back ... I have a bad feeling that in the long run I will get screwed somehow ... Well I wont have these problems with the Nemesis64 at all If I had a stock and a warranty I wouldn't have this problem to begin with Session Close: Sun Apr 19 18:04:26 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 18:06:36 1998 What is your oppinion? And, I re-did my page ... For the final time ... Session Close: Sun Apr 19 18:06:53 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 18:07:27 1998 hold k Session Close: Sun Apr 19 18:07:33 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 18:15:45 1998 You must be pretty busy now, I got to go eat f00d now I'll ask your opinion later .. l8rz Session Close: Sun Apr 19 18:16:14 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 19:13:56 1998 unbusy? yeah this guy is all over you man Really? yes What is he saying? See my page? yes and? cool thanks Session Close: Sun Apr 19 19:19:57 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 19:21:52 1998 center that order info Center? You mean the stuff way off to the right? Yeah that shit you "borrowed" from us. Center it I couldn't get it down in the center.... My HTML skills aren't that great Session Close: Sun Apr 19 19:22:33 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 19:23:04 1998 ok... How would I center it When I create the new tables, the go over there don't worry about it the web staff isn't doing anything here...they can do it It's like, the table wont stay inside the other table Session Close: Sun Apr 19 19:24:42 1998 Session Start: Sun Apr 19 22:22:57 1998 Someone spreading the word about you selling broken copiers and don't let them return them can't be good for your business... PandaMan is an ass ... heh Session Close: Sun Apr 19 22:23:11 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:18:26 1998 US Reseller? Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:18:31 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:18:46 1998 yes gah! Who? you're in the middle of the US this one is in florida Path? Or (censored)? path Path is more of a US rep for Stylex. Damn, he's a richer dude Gah! He is able to handle our US warranty issues That even sucks more! Oh well Best man comes out on top I guess Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:20:54 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:21:21 1998 dude shut up don't give up so easy Now don't worry He's a damn R&D genuis Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:21:48 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:21:54 1998 I'm not giving up I plan to be the best man Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:22:05 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:22:27 1998 Whats R&D? er... He's a webpage guneus er.. If he did your page gfx He will have a definite edge over Hap and myself he did...www.n64-world.com go and see I saw it already Well, I will keep my head up, no matter how many re-sellers there are .... I never expected to win anyway, but I will try! Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:23:58 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:24:16 1998 Remember that your better then even us. To buy 100-1000 is good but not all good Larger resellers pay high rent...pay for x number of people.... thats all $$ And the price effects that That is all $$$ they are getting from thier sales, that I wont be seeing :) Are you saying that he is going to be a larger re-seller, how many is he going to buy? Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:25:43 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:26:37 1998 Larger then you and hap for sure We've worked with Path many times We're set to move 100+ to him in Nov Heh ... damn ... 1 month after you Well, maybe I will have 100 in stock by then Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:28:10 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:28:20 1998 don't see why not Also we will cover everything...So you have nothing to worry about. At least I have that going for me he, you got it all covered :) I'm not worried ... Just curious Like you said, if I make more than I put into it, I did all right by myself then. Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:30:11 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:31:40 1998 correct Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:31:47 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:32:06 1998 but I wanto do the BEST I CAN POSSIBLY DO You are going to have to keep us informed on how many more we can buy So we don't overorder when you run out yes Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:36:00 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:55:40 1998 yo When you talk of the nem you must avoid saying its a backup unit its not Then what should I refer to it as Its a developer unit k Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:56:31 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:57:09 1998 This unit will NOT backup in anyway from Stylex. if you decide to enable it you do so on your own. Okay I changed it will update my page when I get a chance All "backup" have been changed to "developer" ect... Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:59:07 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:59:19 1998 In Aug we will have a booklet in which we will fax/send you. You must read it and sign. k Session Close: Mon Apr 20 00:59:46 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 00:59:57 1998 What it entails is just what I aid said only it will be in legal format which is 30 times longer ah shit legal garbage Takes longer to read :) Session Close: Mon Apr 20 01:01:09 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 01:01:21 1998 It protect our ass... So we use it In no way will Stylex ever say it can backup. From our end it was never made to do that. We didn't know it could... Heh So even now backing up stuff you personnaly own is illegal? Session Close: Mon Apr 20 01:02:33 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 01:02:48 1998 no but it helps everyone if it wasn't possible to begin with Kewl legal wise so if you say yes to all this...we will sell to you Yeah, and long as the thing I sign isn't too hard for me to understand myself, I'll fax it back asap then you must repeat it on your page and NEVER even in this channel say it will backup. Heh, more dislaimer crap for PandaMan not to read Okay, cuz Nintendo is amoung us ... Nin doesn't like the units because they will be used to copy... We will make/sell the units to make demos... Nintendo didn't like the GameGenie For those that already know how to program Cool I'm all for it, whatever you do Now will the bios that can copy come with the unit on the cd you mentioned, or will be just be found on the net somehwere Session Close: Mon Apr 20 01:07:11 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 01:07:41 1998 Dextrose will somehow find it heh Session Close: Mon Apr 20 01:07:54 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 01:07:57 1998 Some units will go out before hand Session Close: Mon Apr 20 01:08:14 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 01:08:17 1998 And these "people" will start to code apps while doing so they found a way to make it backup heh Session Close: Mon Apr 20 01:08:43 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 01:09:11 1998 The dev kit is included with every nem so if you know how..its easy Only if you can program N64 in C heh ASM is a bitch for me ;) Session Close: Mon Apr 20 01:10:15 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 22:17:23 1998 Sup. Say you know how PandaMan is going around badmouthing my company with false claims. Is that against the law, and if so, which one? yes slander okay His false BS cost you $10k in lost sales. I'm thinking about that Should stop selling anyways just not worth it. Q If these are remade sf2's why did pandaman say it has a (censored)ind warranty sticker? Are you just buying from them and reselling one at a time? Yeah, one at a time now ... So they are coming from (censored)ind Yeah ... They are the only place on Earth that has them Well ... you know what I mean (censored) Ind tells me they have to build them You shouldn't lie They are being made in thier factory And also you should have warranty In florida I have been thinking about the warranty issue I just "left out" the (censored) Ind part Everything else is true When people ask where I get them, I tell them "a factory in fl" (censored) tells me they make them, in thier factory .... so .. And (censored) only gives me a 90 day warrenty, and it takes a half a month to get to me So my warranty could only be like 60 days (censored)ind doesn't make them they might have at one time.. They told me they do but not for a long time I asked them why it took 7 days to get them to me They told me they have to make them Session Close: Mon Apr 20 22:28:37 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 23:36:26 1998 Do you think I am taking this PandaMan issue to far? Or is publicly threatening him a good thing to do? And, the last day I will stop selling is the 31st of next month Session Close: Mon Apr 20 23:37:12 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 20 23:50:23 1998 let it go as it is now Okay .. Session Close: Mon Apr 20 23:50:45 1998 Session Start: Wed Apr 22 20:48:15 1998 zzhey If you see SegaMan tell em his copier came today, and tests out 100% fine, and will be to him in 2-3 days, if you can? Session Close: Wed Apr 22 20:48:50 1998 Session Start: Wed Apr 22 20:49:54 1998 ok Thanks, cuz I might now be on later, and I might.. later Session Close: Wed Apr 22 20:50:09 1998 Session Start: Wed Apr 22 20:50:17 1998 later Session Close: Wed Apr 22 20:50:20 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 16:56:08 1998 How much would it cost to ship a Nem to Canada would you gestimate? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 16:56:28 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 16:58:01 1998 40 Session Close: Thu Apr 23 16:58:04 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 16:58:08 1998 why bother... cheaper for us to do it SPAMAN is just stupid Session Close: Thu Apr 23 16:58:44 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 16:58:57 1998 for him.... 59 shipping Heh ! :) Session Close: Thu Apr 23 16:59:24 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:01:49 1998 You told SpaMan he couldn't come get the unit from you, when you starting selling them, why? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:02:13 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:02:41 1998 we have no pickup area What you based out of a house or something? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:03:10 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:03:34 1998 no we have 7 locations each have a special job.. Nework/ISP Printing Desktop Pub VideoGame Office 90+ % of all vidgames sales are to the US So we ship direct So there are 7 guys, all in thier houses? :) in nov we will open a 8th location More like 20 people per location We're located on the 57th floor of the firstcan building Which doesn't matter, I will have to base my operation in my basement .... I have a very big basement though. kick ass office Then why couldn't SpaMan just walk over and get one? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:06:13 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:06:35 1998 our office has a lot of....stuff sitting out He wouldn't even need to go inside, he could meet you outside the door? easy to take Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:07:27 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:07:31 1998 no go we don't even give the address Hmmm... See, I can understand your location needed to be kept secret for "other" reasons but, I mean, you couldn't meet him at the local pub and give it to him? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:09:19 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:09:54 1998 look, its not a big deal, if you want to make some money....send him a unit It's not him, it just sounds strange to me that's all. but if you have your reasons, I respect that. Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:11:28 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:11:38 1998 We will open a new location for the nem however they take time will not be ready in time k Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:12:50 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:38:52 1998 As soon as you get some infoz about the nems out I bet I will get some pre-orders. Which is a good thing :) Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:40:07 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 17:41:43 1998 ok Session Close: Thu Apr 23 17:42:09 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:10:46 1998 Talking about the SF2 bios? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:10:54 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:11:56 1998 yes Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:11:58 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:37:28 1998 What'd be on the CD? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:37:33 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:37:47 1998 utils oh Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:38:50 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:41:40 1998 That kinda points tords a pport :) Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:41:50 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:42:17 1998 no Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:42:21 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:42:33 1998 z64 could have had one I bet, from that connector inside right? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:42:57 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 20:43:18 1998 yes Did you personnaly find a way to do it? Session Close: Thu Apr 23 20:43:37 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 23:06:27 1998 SPAMAN is 14 hehe Session Close: Thu Apr 23 23:06:34 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 23:06:52 1998 i know... sad Session Close: Thu Apr 23 23:07:27 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 23:18:39 1998 I lowered the price on the SF2, so when ur web guys get a chace... Session Close: Thu Apr 23 23:18:54 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 23:19:37 1998 what is it now? $150 for 32mbit unit Session Close: Thu Apr 23 23:19:46 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 23 23:21:39 1998 making nothing on that right? Barely nothing. Session Close: Thu Apr 23 23:21:55 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 12:32:51 1998 Sup What do you think would be good tradin prices for used Z's and D's ? Session Close: Fri Apr 24 12:33:10 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 12:33:27 1998 Hard to say... Right now it would be 300, 200 What do you give out usually? But we don't know just how much the Nem will effect the market. I guess. The going rate for anything is 1/4th trade in This pisses off the user I was planning on like $100 for the Z and $70 for the V Heh... Session Close: Fri Apr 24 12:39:34 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 12:40:44 1998 cool Session Close: Fri Apr 24 12:41:01 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 12:41:49 1998 Its much better to add a ... like a guest book message board, thats it this will allow users to buy and sell used equipment on your site. Hmmm.... I don't know how to add one :) I get my own domain soon, http://vivid.abused.net When I move it there, I'll prolly add a messageboard, if I can find out how to. Session Close: Fri Apr 24 12:45:52 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 12:47:11 1998 that domain sucks invest in a www.????.com Well, I am getting that free Session Close: Fri Apr 24 12:47:38 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 12:47:56 1998 Once you sell the nem its very hard to move... You need to setup a final location and ride the wave I can always just make it autoload my new URL or say, "We moved, click here" My gold is eventually to get www.vividbarrier.com er goal Session Close: Fri Apr 24 12:49:28 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 12:50:44 1998 cool Session Close: Fri Apr 24 12:51:26 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:10:10 1998 Odd ball info for you ? Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:10:32 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:10:35 1998 The Nemesis can connect to a smaller more compact version of the blue8 Really? You've seen a blue8? Or did HapEQB^3 send you the plans? Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:11:19 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:11:25 1998 I've talked to Hap about this and if they can design the unit to operate off the Nemesis as a 3rd party add on then the blue8 may be stoped. So it would just be an addon for the Nemesis I could still sell it though Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:12:07 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:12:20 1998 The Nemesis version would be fast, smaller, cheaper to make, more popular, and way easier. So it would run NES games through the 64? Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:12:46 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:13:35 1998 no Um.... Then how would it operate? Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:13:53 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:14:13 1998 It would be a flash cart setup where the Nem can upload roms from any media to eeprom the nes cart is ejected to run in any nes Oh I see Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:14:37 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:14:55 1998 this method if very popular and very low cost to build Cool, I could sell these also right? Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:15:25 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:15:59 1998 Have to wait and see if Hap's company is even interested The offer is open Oh. Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:16:09 1998 Session Start: Fri Apr 24 13:16:21 1998 We will also have to see what the final interface will be Session Close: Fri Apr 24 13:17:48 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:26:25 1998 Close to selling out? How? Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:26:37 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:29:09 1998 You are going to sell out? Gah, does this mean I am only getting 10? Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:29:24 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:29:45 1998 Looks like it Who is going to buy the other 400 some? Looks like it Well shit Heh, there goes my plans on making some money this christmas, oh well i'll make like $800 from them I guess Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:31:19 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:31:31 1998 Don't give up so easy man Tell me what you think of the page. I'm not giving up but I'm soposed to be this re-seller dude, with only 10 to re-sell? Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:32:00 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:32:21 1998 You sell sf2's, how many do you have? 0 you can do it but I have access to SF2's So calm down there is a big supply We have 100 going to our US supplier So you have them 100 to path? Yes Is he going to charge $300 ea. for 10? Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:33:34 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:33:39 1998 You may have to pay slightly more because they were shipped twice Like $50 for 10 but he doesn't get his 100 until a month after I get my 10 right? no Is he buying all 100 for $300 each? He will get his when you do yeah gah! He'll sell all 100 first ya know ...... And dealing with him means waiting longer to get the units here I was really looking forward to that order 20 first, then if 20 more thing we talked about. Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:35:48 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:35:54 1998 20 will cost 6k but I guess the person with more $$$ wins. Can you raise that? I can only get 3k No, I mean where 1 buy 10 buy 10 more you trust me if i get an order for 20 you will send them to each person for an extra $40 shipping deal type thingy but, there I go thinking I will get rich quick thing again .... Too bad I don't have 30k so I could be the official us dis site :) Thats cool Did you see my page yet? not yet The deal is kewl but, if they aren't going to be any to ship I was hoping to make a pretty penny this winter, but if there is only 10 or 20 so to sell, see what I mean. Like, if I sold 200, that's $17,800 :) for my pocket As it stands we have a half mill changing hands with the HK That's cool and all, not like I would want you to miss a deal like that but can't you understand how I feel? You have the door open to prebuy as much as you want but when the HK guys send the cash, we give them all we have left When does he plan on sending it? As soon as we can show it off I mean, here I am, little John, starts selling SF2's, thinking he will sell 1 or 2 and then that will be it. Then some big company askes to host his site. He is stunned, then they ask him if he would be a re-seller, buy 10. John knows he can get $3,000 by the end of August. John talks to the company some work, works out great plans to help sales. John gets all hopes up, tells lots of people. John goes to buy 10 to find out big bad HK rich dude bought all 500, so John is left behind the rich dude. That's how I feel. but, it's okay, it happens .... I will buy 10, if I can, then sell them, post on my page they are sold out, and wait until January to buy more Hopefully the big bad rich dude doesn't buy the next 1000 or so ... :) You're being a bitch Calm the fuck down Heh ... but you can see my point? As a small reseller you have no clue I have some sort of clue, the rich people win, period. We're very good at this here and I don't get $150 an hour to leave the small dudes out to dry So calm down That's how it works in real life. I'm not upset, really. Just thinking, heavily. heh, I even got a job "Hyro-seeding" to get extra cashflow ... "Hydro-Seeding" heheh have you ever seen that? It's the funniest damn thing. Listen man.....keep with the plan, it will work out don't worry Okay, I'll stick with it. I am going to no matter what. If 10 is all I get, 10 is all I get. Well, goodnight I guess .... more like goodmorning .... :) Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:54:50 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:55:13 1998 later I didn't mean to piss you off, I just get concerned a bit. Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:55:34 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:55:56 1998 You didn't piss me off We're here to sell and thats what we're doing So all is good Heh .... k .... later Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:56:44 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:57:00 1998 later Session Close: Sat Apr 25 00:57:02 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 14:14:33 1998 Do you know the command to close a window using javascript? Session Close: Sat Apr 25 14:14:45 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 14:15:59 1998 no Session Close: Sat Apr 25 14:16:12 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 16:55:42 1998 Like my page? Session Close: Sat Apr 25 16:55:46 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 23:13:17 1998 Will the Nem be able to co-exist with a v64 on the n64 at the same time? Session Close: Sat Apr 25 23:13:34 1998 Session Start: Sat Apr 25 23:13:51 1998 yes kewl Session Close: Sat Apr 25 23:14:30 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 14:36:05 1998 Bund told me I can order PC Jr's from them I guess they saw my page and that convinced them Session Close: Mon Apr 27 14:36:21 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 14:36:29 1998 what is it NES BAckup Unit from bung Session Close: Mon Apr 27 14:36:51 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 14:37:03 1998 cost? Don't know yet bung wrote Dear John, The pcjr is only available in chinese version at this moment. If you still need Chinese version, please let us know. The SF2 has no longer provide back up funtion. Sorry. regards barry the nem is capable of bacup/restore any cart system But with an addon This system has been asked for a lot, I might buy like 10 I know I'll sell them all, which in turn would make me a profit to help buy more Nem's :) Did you even find out how much each blank SF2 bios would cost? no Session Close: Mon Apr 27 14:40:17 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 20:23:22 1998 Why don't they advertise that on thier site? because its BS What you are saying> Or what they advertise? Session Close: Mon Apr 27 20:25:13 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 20:25:27 1998 Come one.....system sells for 222 for one, yet 45 for 5? need some help Well You might have been telling the truth Session Close: Mon Apr 27 20:25:55 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 20:49:22 1998 I know But someone needs to mass-produce it Session Close: Mon Apr 27 20:49:37 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 20:49:54 1998 we can get a unit just like that only smaller that works on the nem Cool exactly like that only smaller I'll sell those also :P and less expensive Well How expensive? to make is like 35 People without a Nemesis64 will still want the stand alone ones also .... Heh, but how much will each Cart cost? you get 1 thats it You wont sell them seperatly? no So, are you planning to make the Nemesis64 do all the other system, like PCE, NES, GB, SNES, GENESIS we won't be building this Who will? it can do them all on one unit if they want Someone like hap will if they can make it Well, I could probably make them Once I make the VX's I will know the damn things inside and out I am having a real tech guy, that does this kind of shit for a living make them I don't know how much they will cost each to build, cuz I still haven't gotten a card price from the IO-59 guy yet the nems is much more basic Do you have plans for it? Dcc them, I'll have him make 1 Session Close: Mon Apr 27 20:55:31 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 20:56:01 1998 I will give credit to the original inventors of the flashkit that I will sell, but see, no one has mass produced it as of yet. I will do that no we don't design it you do its 10k for us to do it Oh.... Well, how would one go about designing one to work with the Nemesis? I hope to sell the XV w/one blank cart for $99 It will work with the cart slot so you can send from the cart slot into an adapter to the flash cart the board cannot be much more than $10, the flashrom cannot be that expensive, and the gb carts are like $20 each Hmmm.... Is the nemesis capable of running C code? or must it be ASM? the cart can cost you shouldn't need code its all in the nem THe nem nativlly could dump gb roms? Or send the rom data nativally then it's the copiers job to put in on the cart the nem wouldn't know what the file is size or kind it will send whatever you want to whatever port you want Kewl, so one would just need to make a interface for the gb unit that would accept the data from the nem I'll have my tech guy look into it when I get a nem I plan to have a working VX by the end of this month Session Close: Mon Apr 27 21:01:15 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 21:03:30 1998 But why would it be cheaper to do for the nem? Wouldn't you still need the basic hardware of the GB unit i have? Or just design something from the ground up? Session Close: Mon Apr 27 21:04:04 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 21:05:21 1998 need something new all you need is a single adapter looks like the snes gb cart plugs in the nem, then the gb cart in it Heh Will pass that on to my tech dude, see what he can come up with when I get a nemesis64 Session Close: Mon Apr 27 21:15:58 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 21:18:37 1998 ok Do you have any information on the pin layouts of the nemesis64 cart port? Or should I wait until it is released to get all that stuff? Not as of yet however I may be able to get them sonner Cuz If I could get a description on how the data is sent through the port it could help make a beta unit If my tech is any good of course :) Will the N64 be able to interact with the NEmesis64? Like, retrieve data from it directly Like, make a N64 rom that could read textures from a cd? Session Close: Mon Apr 27 21:26:21 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 21:28:28 1998 Yes Nemesis supports read at once and on demand. Allowing for PSX style games to be made with fmv btw, beta units are 3k and save you a month... Heh, I'll wait and buy 10 for 3k Session Close: Mon Apr 27 21:43:52 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 21:46:06 1998 and emp hates me God I don't care! Heh Session Close: Mon Apr 27 21:46:26 1998 Session Start: Mon Apr 27 21:48:06 1998 ha damn someone wants to buy 20 sf2's kick ass! cool well, gotta call him now, later later Session Close: Mon Apr 27 21:49:21 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 17:47:49 1998 God Bung wants $90 for the system, $50 to ship it and hap is giving me problems because he doesn't believe me it is that much Session Close: Tue Apr 28 17:48:18 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 17:49:22 1998 50 each to ship is BS How much should it be? To ship from Bung to me is $50 or "around" that Session Close: Tue Apr 28 17:52:00 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 17:52:20 1998 Its 25 to ship a doc to canada WTF! and the v64 is way larger It says shipping to us for a doc is $57 on there page if you order 10 its 250 Hmmm Well, I told Hap the cost for 1 not 10 We will see what happens when I order 10 if its that much forget about it no money to be made Heh, I want one And someone already pre-ordered I only make $3 profit each one Session Close: Tue Apr 28 17:55:28 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 17:55:41 1998 Unless shipping turns out to be less Session Close: Tue Apr 28 17:55:48 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 17:56:07 1998 that sucks Session Close: Tue Apr 28 17:56:23 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 17:56:46 1998 Shipping for one V64 from Bung 67.00 USD Session Close: Tue Apr 28 17:57:01 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 17:57:31 1998 z64 is the only big profit maker just hard to sell online Heh I am pissed now Hap dragged where I sold the SF2's from Now he knows it's (censored) also, he wants to sell PC JR's and I want to be the only one I need money to buy the Nemesis64's I need all the extra $3.00's I can get God, this type of Business can change in a few seconds I should of never trused Hap in the first place Session Close: Tue Apr 28 17:59:46 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 20:07:59 1998 Hey, did Hap say anything to you? The fucker wouldn't answer me earlier. Session Close: Tue Apr 28 20:08:21 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 20:08:31 1998 no Session Close: Tue Apr 28 20:08:37 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 20:28:07 1998 Gah! New games, are both American? Session Close: Tue Apr 28 20:28:24 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 20:28:53 1998 name them The ones in the topic Courtside and Powerfufu or something GOd knows if I keep up with the games Session Close: Tue Apr 28 20:29:29 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 20:29:33 1998 us and jap Kewl Session Close: Tue Apr 28 20:30:03 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 22:38:39 1998 hook me up with the site man k You'll need to BIOS, GAME ROM and EMU http://www.c64.org/~drac/NeoGeo.html ---- EMU http://www.jacksonville.net/~stingray/nam-1975.zip ---- ROM I'll dcc you the bios when I finish d/ling the rom Session Close: Tue Apr 28 22:40:23 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 22:41:24 1998 is that the only rom they have? It's the only rom the emu author will let you play so far Maybe each rom requires it's own configuration I mean on that site? Oh I don't know, I just got the url from some other dude Session Close: Tue Apr 28 22:42:19 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 22:43:34 1998 says that the rom is only 2m Wait until you unzip it The dude told me it's 50 megs, i'll see in a bit i'm 77% complete Session Close: Tue Apr 28 22:44:32 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 22:47:52 1998 Guess the guy was lying about the 50 meg size Session Close: Tue Apr 28 22:48:02 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 23:24:34 1998 Do you know if a SF2 will work on a pal snes? Session Close: Tue Apr 28 23:24:43 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 23:25:38 1998 should okay Someone wants to buy one from Ireland Session Close: Tue Apr 28 23:26:24 1998 Session Start: Tue Apr 28 23:26:42 1998 sell it but don't promise anything Yeah, I told him it *should* work Session Close: Tue Apr 28 23:27:14 1998 Session Start: Wed Apr 29 00:32:31 1998 New price increase for your page :) Professor SF II w/64 Megabits of RAM - $225 Professor SF II w/32 Megabits of RAM - $175 Session Close: Wed Apr 29 00:32:49 1998 Session Start: Wed Apr 29 00:32:57 1998 ok thanks :) Session Close: Wed Apr 29 00:33:03 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 30 20:59:46 1998 Sup I'm on N64-world where does it link to you? Session Close: Thu Apr 30 21:00:01 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 30 21:07:19 1998 doesn't, not yet k Session Close: Thu Apr 30 21:07:29 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 30 21:07:33 1998 Think you could put a notice on your page about me selling the Jrs? Session Close: Thu Apr 30 21:07:50 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 30 21:08:18 1998 not yet we only post what we know is a good product we never seen a pcj Oh, you could help me out by pre-ordering 1 :) Session Close: Thu Apr 30 21:10:08 1998 Session Start: Thu Apr 30 21:10:45 1998 $? $150 and its a nes copier? Yes NES and Copier in 1, so I am told Bung makes them then again, you could always buy your own from bung like 50 of your own :) It's $150 for each If I can buy 10 or so, then the price drops So I can send a refund back Session Close: Thu Apr 30 21:12:52 1998 Session Start: Fri May 01 16:15:11 1998 testing a bot Oh Session Close: Fri May 01 16:15:25 1998 Session Start: Fri May 01 18:24:57 1998 Think you might order a PC NES Jr? I got bung to tell me they are $88 + shipping to Me, and then + shipping to you Session Close: Fri May 01 18:25:21 1998 Session Start: Fri May 01 18:26:16 1998 no very costly, not in english not worth it Oh, okay Session Close: Fri May 01 18:26:40 1998 Session Start: Fri May 01 19:30:41 1998 Not to rush you, but I would hate to have to return anyones order if they ordered the sf2's from your page, 64mbit $225, 32mbit $175 :) Session Close: Fri May 01 19:31:13 1998 Session Start: Fri May 01 19:32:15 1998 ? My price changes on my SF2's 64mbit is now $225, 32mbit is now $175 Session Close: Fri May 01 19:32:44 1998 Session Start: Fri May 01 19:34:41 1998 You want me to remove your site? ok Oh no, I just wanted to prices changed :) Session Close: Fri May 01 19:35:09 1998 Session Start: Fri May 01 19:36:57 1998 Why, do you want it removed? Session Close: Fri May 01 19:37:08 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 03:32:45 1998 Why can't you send me a pix? Session Close: Sat May 02 03:32:53 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 03:33:09 1998 sorry its a dev pict Heh ... k Session Close: Sat May 02 03:33:25 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 03:35:08 1998 My job kinda sucks when it rains, I can't work this week i made $60 blah I need to find a extra/extra job to make some money :) Session Close: Sat May 02 03:35:43 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 03:35:54 1998 bummer Yeah .... Hap still wants to go in half and half with me, but I'm determined to make money to buy 10 myself If these Dr Pc jr's sell as good as the sf2's did in the begining i'll make like $500-$1000 for myself and If ppl like beetle pre-order I'll be l00king good Session Close: Sat May 02 03:37:05 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:07:38 1998 Heh, feeling nice :) Session Close: Sat May 02 22:07:54 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:07:55 1998 nope oh Session Close: Sat May 02 22:08:00 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:09:09 1998 Damn, I thought you sent me a pix on the Nemesis64 :) Is this for my new links page? Session Close: Sat May 02 22:09:40 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:09:54 1998 its not offical from us But its better then most Use it if you wish okay Session Close: Sat May 02 22:10:09 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:11:25 1998 Nov 14? Session Close: Sat May 02 22:11:40 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:11:50 1998 we 13 but that could back fire. well Still gonna put info in Aug? yes Hmm Well that gives me a little more time to get more cashflow Skipped 2 months from Aug to Nov but thats for info We may have people getting info this month I feel like picking on spaman... ha! Heh What about me getting some info this month? Session Close: Sat May 02 22:18:08 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:18:27 1998 You need to sign papers and shit Send em when ready I will for sure I mean, if worse comes to worse, and I end up not being able to buy 10 or more, I'll at least get one for myself :P Heh, but I just sold 5 sf2's in the last 2 days that's a record! Session Close: Sat May 02 22:19:52 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:28:54 1998 Got any quick ideas how I draw attention to my site? Session Close: Sat May 02 22:29:11 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:30:04 1998 not really Session Close: Sat May 02 22:30:09 1998 Session Start: Sat May 02 22:30:10 1998 sell z's Heh, from where? Session Close: Sat May 02 22:30:20 1998 Session Start: Sun May 03 00:55:34 1998 any chance on me getting the source for the bios, or at least the cd-rom bios? Session Close: Sun May 03 00:56:43 1998 Session Start: Sun May 03 01:00:40 1998 is the compiler in that zip? Session Close: Sun May 03 01:00:46 1998 Session Start: Sun May 03 01:01:00 1998 you need your own c++ app okay I have MSC++ 5.0 er, MSVC++, will have to find a dos c++ then? Session Close: Sun May 03 01:01:42 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:03:52 1998 Have you been able to find the price of the BIOS chip? Session Close: Mon May 04 00:04:11 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:04:57 1998 not going to bother Why? Session Close: Mon May 04 00:05:30 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:05:45 1998 Because you will never need them from us. um, why is that? Session Close: Mon May 04 00:05:56 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:06:22 1998 bios is too hard to find, and demand is low twobits has the bios chip Session Close: Mon May 04 00:06:35 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:06:58 1998 For us to do it we need a sf2 and the bios chip. I don't see this happening. Session Close: Mon May 04 00:07:28 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:10:25 1998 twobits will burn them for me, we just need chips could you direct me somehwere? Session Close: Mon May 04 00:10:44 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:11:05 1998 nope Session Close: Mon May 04 00:11:16 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:11:47 1998 Do you still have the info i gave you on it? Session Close: Mon May 04 00:11:58 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:13:00 1998 i think so Heh, I kinda need that ser# :) Session Close: Mon May 04 00:14:07 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 00:35:41 1998 huk me up with another page ? Session Close: Mon May 04 00:35:51 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 17:21:15 1998 Yo yo I've never made an internation call before, do I just call the phone# on bungs page? Or, do you have a # to call where I could speak to someone from Bung that speaks english? No need to call them at all. Is this for that jr thing? Yeah I need to talk to them its simple This email exchanging we have been doing it's taking way to long e-mail with your shipping info and ask for the total cost for 10 + shipping. The # on the page is - 852-26372281 They will reply with a price and wire xfer info I need to just talk to them in voice . No way to talk to them direct they will hold you until they finaly forward you to (censored)ind Damn I need to talk to them about the unit They told me the unit can't backup and play nes roms, but everyone I talk to that has one can Guess I will just have to order 1 unit, and see bad business to sell a product that you have yet to find out if it play! I know, I was misled I think Bung just says that because of legal reasons Like, does Bung openly admit to the V64 being a N64 backup unit? Session Close: Mon May 04 17:28:40 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 17:28:43 1998 they do hmm even tell you how to enable it MindRape, Yoshi, and Stumble tell me the Doctor PC Jr's can copy The Doctor PC JR8-bit computer designed for students. Uses NES software, with custom made DOS, WPS and Windows based control. Built-in Texas Instrument voice chip. Hardware supported includes mouse, keyboard (PC standard, DIN port) and Doctor 7's custom CD-ROM drive with VCD card.Able to play 8-bit NES games independently (no need for NES console).

8-bit computer with CD-ROM drive, able to playback VCD movies. GUI based design similar to Windows format, control with PC standard mouse. A small basic computer for children.

Session Close: Mon May 04 17:30:16 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 17:33:05 1998 ok Session Close: Mon May 04 17:33:14 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 22:51:23 1998 Doesn't come ready to backup, did you find some info on it? Session Close: Mon May 04 22:51:34 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 22:51:52 1998 I talked to a friend that has one Guy says it sucks What's the verdict? How do you enable it to backup? And what kinda file format does it use? Session Close: Mon May 04 22:53:17 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 22:54:54 1998 i didn't ask the exacts but it has to be modded to backup? Session Close: Mon May 04 22:55:18 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 23:00:29 1998 so he says Did he hint at what he had to do at all? Like, just changing a jumper, or something as hard as replacing the whole bios chip Session Close: Mon May 04 23:01:06 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 23:04:47 1998 Do you think you could find out how he modded it, and what format of rom it uses for me? no Why not Session Close: Mon May 04 23:05:16 1998 Session Start: Mon May 04 23:06:56 1998 It would really help me out if you can at least find out how your friend modded the unit? Session Close: Mon May 04 23:07:16 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 14:21:12 1998 Yo Session Close: Tue May 05 14:21:26 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 14:21:33 1998 yo I got this from Bung Bung Enterprises Limited Banking Information: Bank Name: The Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited (Shatin Centre Branch) Bank Address: 30D, Level 3, Shatin Centre Shopping Arcade, Shatin, N.T., Hong Kong A/C Number: 004-557-6-002157 A/C Name: Bung Enterprises Ltd. For fast delivery, please fax us the bank receipt of the payment with your name, detail address and phone number at (852)2637-2361. The product will be delivered to you by UPS or FedEx as soon as the banking transaction is completed. I look forward to serving you Best regards Barry but no Bank Routing Number Do you know the number? Session Close: Tue May 05 14:22:33 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 14:30:23 1998 its on the web site Where? I must be blind look around I have been :( Bank Name: The Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited (Shatin Centre Branch) Bank Address: 30D, Level 3, Shatin Centre Shopping Arcade, Shatin, N.T., Hong Kong A/C Number: 004-557-6-002157 A/C Name: Bung Enterprises Ltd. That's what on thier page, no Bank Routing # My Bank needs thier banks Routing #, so they say Session Close: Tue May 05 14:32:20 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 14:32:31 1998 Do you just order with the info on that page? Session Close: Tue May 05 14:32:41 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 14:35:38 1998 ? Session Close: Tue May 05 14:35:41 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 14:37:41 1998 Sorry, must of split So, is that all the info you give your bank? Session Close: Tue May 05 14:38:03 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 15:16:52 1998 Sorry, had to go earlier Session Close: Tue May 05 15:16:59 1998 Session Start: Tue May 05 15:17:27 1998 called bung, no answer, prolly closed no now Session Close: Tue May 05 15:17:38 1998 Session Start: Wed May 06 01:26:28 1998 Hey My bank wont wire without a routing # ok I went there today, with the same info on bungs page They said they needed Bung's Bank's routing #, do you know it? Session Close: Wed May 06 01:27:15 1998 Session Start: Wed May 06 01:27:45 1998 maybe I would like to order my jr, but either i need that #, or my bank sucks Session Close: Wed May 06 01:28:36 1998 Session Start: Wed May 06 01:31:28 1998 I don't have it I have what you do and it works fine Damn My bank sucks And WU wont do Wire Transfers to bank's will they? no I'll be a goats ass I will have to bitch out my bank Session Close: Wed May 06 01:32:20 1998 Session Start: Wed May 06 23:46:03 1998 buying From where? umm.... www.stylex.com That's me :) really? Yeah, it's not $200 anymore page says $200 :) Good time to change prices ? 64mbit $225 32mbit $175 Session Close: Wed May 06 23:46:30 1998 Session Start: Wed May 06 23:47:41 1998 When you get a chance of course Session Close: Wed May 06 23:47:58 1998 Session Start: Thu May 07 14:04:24 1998 I must seem like a pest now, but did you happen to get my msg about the new prices on the SF2 units? Session Close: Thu May 07 14:04:44 1998 Session Start: Thu May 07 20:26:59 1998 Yo All the news SF2's I get have the "Backup Card" option enabled ! Session Close: Thu May 07 20:27:18 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:38:19 1998 shhhh I wanto see if they sell them for real Session Close: Sat May 09 01:38:30 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:38:47 1998 its causing more damage then good dude Hmmm Well, if they are legit, and are the new ones That could be a good thing? Session Close: Sat May 09 01:39:16 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:39:34 1998 Its just not possible to sell at that price How much is each one in bulk? Session Close: Sat May 09 01:40:06 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:40:12 1998 198 hmmm Then shipping would be a lot So I guess $222 is out of the pricerange fishy... Session Close: Sat May 09 01:40:40 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:40:40 1998 20-25 each to ship in bulk Session Close: Sat May 09 01:40:47 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:41:38 1998 i told you that Yaya, but if there is a chance it's for real, then wouldn't it be worth it to find out? Session Close: Sat May 09 01:43:32 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:43:44 1998 Show me one way it is. Basically, the cheapest price around Session Close: Sat May 09 01:44:20 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:44:48 1998 show me how, thats all That's all really most ppl look at price first, remember? Session Close: Sat May 09 01:45:24 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:45:48 1998 And they will expect us to sell at that price and it can't be done Heh, bad for your business I guess then bad for everyone I'll keep it to myself then, but if they do sell at that price, I could buy a bunch causes more work for us and sell for $10 more over here and peoblems for those that got ripped. Session Close: Sat May 09 01:47:03 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:47:22 1998 Bung is the only place to buy from And they charge 190 each for 100 - 5000. at that rate its 20 per unit to ship Cheapest shipping in the US is $6.50 for the v64 thats 5 day ground so do the math Yeah I know, so this place is a ripoff it can't be done maybe They are in canada also :) thats even worse but, if they are for real, I could at least get a cheaper price on a unit Session Close: Sat May 09 01:49:20 1998 Session Start: Sat May 09 01:49:23 1998 customs on 10 units is $48 shipping to the US from Can is high hehe....no way That's what I thought, if I get a spare $222 I might just try it for kicks I'll get it return reciept and a certified check So if I felt like getting my cash back, I could at least try only way it can be done is used She told me they are new Session Close: Sat May 09 01:52:33 1998 Session Start: Sun May 10 23:44:18 1998 yo That place tells me this hello there, sorry we only do money orders. and we are bung. the America bung. the bung you know its the one from honk kong. thx Session Close: Sun May 10 23:44:37 1998 Session Start: Sun May 10 23:45:06 1998 ok Hmm, I emailed Bung to ask about them since they claim to be the USA/CAN Bung Session Close: Sun May 10 23:45:40 1998 Session Start: Sun May 10 23:46:06 1998 if that was the case we could order from them instead of HK...Seems odd. You should be able to get the pc jr too Yeah, I'll email them that now Session Close: Sun May 10 23:46:59 1998 Session Start: Tue May 12 15:19:32 1998 I got my first WU Money Order today I added the fact that they need to send me thier passcode/answer to have me get the money though to the wu page Session Close: Tue May 12 15:20:09 1998 Session Start: Sun May 17 20:40:49 1998 For what he pasted, it does sound like what we chatted about Session Close: Sun May 17 20:41:02 1998 Session Start: Sun May 17 20:41:05 1998 sound... yeah can you send it? Session Close: Sun May 17 20:42:06 1998 Session Start: Sun May 17 20:44:12 1998 It does any 3 ide drive No shit Like any 3? Will it use drivers for each one? Each BIOS will have drivers in it That's all he sent Session Close: Sun May 17 20:44:54 1998 Session Start: Sun May 17 20:46:28 1998 odd Session Close: Sun May 17 20:47:06 1998 Session Start: Sun May 24 15:56:09 1998 You still gonna make that NES addon for the NEM? Session Close: Sun May 24 15:56:20 1998 Session Start: Sun May 24 15:56:29 1998 no commaneyt comment Session Close: Sun May 24 15:56:34 1998 Session Start: Sun May 24 23:04:11 1998 Is there any possible way to get one of those working cd64 from you? Session Close: Sun May 24 23:04:24 1998 Session Start: Mon May 25 21:22:20 1998 I don't see any reason why we should have to argue publically I'm sorry if you info got leaked site says you gave the info over I never gave anything over to anybody site says you did What site? And i didn't give anything out, he stole those logs ... and about the Nems http://www.abused.org/nem64.txt I really don't care I do feel a little dumb now :) but, I stand behind my decision when i get back in the channel you're gone for good. which in part, is because I lost my job Why am I banned for good? i will have to be removed for you to get back in Why? And I stand by my decision -ignored- Session Close: Mon May 25 21:25:56 1998 Session Start: Mon May 25 21:36:28 1998 I swear, the info didn't come from me if you destroy my company, you destroy me and it wont effect nate at all, he'll move on if I could delete the info I would but I don't have access to the root of abused.org Session Close: Mon May 25 21:37:14 1998 Session Start: Mon May 25 21:59:29 1998 Will you talk to me now? Session Close: Mon May 25 21:59:35 1998 Session Start: Mon May 25 21:59:43 1998 Nothing to say I told you what will happen So live with it. Why should I be hurt, for something that I did not do? I don't care Then why are you out to get me? I really don't You can answer to the people that were looking forward to the contest which is now off. What can they excuse me of? Nothing, I did nothing I talked to you, that's all I never told Nate anything he stole what he has, and made up the rest if I could take the page down I would I told nate to I even removed Vivid Barrier from his server What do you expect me to do? Or say? Session Close: Mon May 25 22:04:09 1998 Session Start: Mon May 25 22:05:18 1998 Are you going to answer that? I had nothing to do with it Session Close: Mon May 25 22:05:30 1998 Session Start: Mon May 25 23:46:38 1998 I still don't see any reason why you don't trust me? Session Close: Mon May 25 23:46:50 1998 Session Start: Mon May 25 23:47:35 1998 It would be better if you just stoped talking to me. I really have nothing to say I'm sorry it had to turn up this way .... :( sorry you think that I was behind that stuff ... Session Close: Mon May 25 23:48:10 1998 Session Start: Tue May 26 19:56:28 1998 I just wanted to know the place to get them that's all Leave me alone So I don't have to email every other z64 re-seller and wait for them to reply to me Session Close: Tue May 26 19:56:56 1998 Session Start: Fri May 29 00:08:46 1998 Enjoy your stay outside. Heh, you can't stand me being right about things, and you can't face me, so you have to kick me out. Session Close: Fri May 29 00:10:23 1998 Session Start: Fri May 29 00:10:38 1998 yawn Session Close: Fri May 29 00:10:41 1998 Session Start: Tue Jun 02 03:07:59 1998 Do you think everything can be kewl between us, if I shut the fuck up about your shit? and we just don't talk or argue? cuz, it makes us both look worse, and does no good Session Close: Tue Jun 02 03:08:45 1998 Session Start: Tue Jun 02 03:12:42 1998 Oh I don't think so okay, just woundering ... cuz I am gonna stop at least for now I'm far from done It makes us look bad for argueing and there is really nothing you could do i mean, you could make me loose VB I wouldn't mind no one even cares about the shit you or myself say when we go one that's why I've found it no use at all If you don't care then you have little to say You may sit in the corner and take whats coming to you. So you plan to try to destroy Vivid Barrier? heh, well, I guess have fun remember, this shit is real life, like my life, I haven't done anything wrong with my bussiness, I live up to my end of the deals and I don't lie, or at least try my best not to yawn tell someone that cares And if Panda is your only thing you have which could be the only thing That's all his fault ... If I have nothing why are you going on and on? because wars or BS will make more trouble then is needed and I'd not like to have to use my domain to defend myself from you ... I'm trying to avoid a war You may begin at anytime I have nothing to defend against yet I just have to wait for you to start lying that's the only way to get at me ... is to lie cuz I've done nothing else wrong then whats the problen? the only problem is, that people believe you no matter what you say you have them wooped well, most people there are some who see right through you like that guy asking about the cerberus he knew it was never released he was the 2nd pre-ordered or, something that close to it he followed it from the start or whatnot whatever I could careless That's the problem you don't care I do, I just wish you would admit you lied, to get it over with good i hope that helps or prove I am wrong by taking pix nah i have nothing to prove You sit here, with hollow threats trying to scare me, it wont work I just would rather avoid any problems i'm not doing anything You said I'll be sorry, implied you will ruin VB See you imply See, I know you might be able to, but probably not but, I just don't need the extra shit going on we both don't need it Maybe I should of just let you go on with the BS, since you don't care about them but, I chose to stand up against you like others have done ha whatever go away There would be no reason to stand up against you if you weren't doing shit wrong I've spent countless amounts of money to get the collection I have. And I could careless if a handfull of people don't believe me. Really I could careless. but why not take one pix ? If you want to...cool. If you don't...cool It makes no difference I'd like to see it at least You're not after that You will fight about anything if not this, something else. I'm not after anything anymore And I have nothing to prove. I've given up there is no point in fighting then go away I could of been soldering my NES --> FAM convertor well, I just wanted to tell you Stop wasting time and go away That I'm willing to lay down my shit, and stretch out my hand to you, and ask you to forgive me for the constant nagging I asked you in the other channel while this one was having problems to drop this. And you didn't You decided to do it your way You may or may not be done. Again I don't care I'm sorry I took it so far, I'm done .... If you want to fight in this world do it for something you can change If I hated you, or Stylex I wouldn't still link to you, or give out your url when ppl ask where to buy a Nem I just got mad at you about shit Its more work for me to hold units for you. For you dropping out only made my job better. So again I don't care if you're in or not Okay, I'm not trying to get back in on the Nems If you have a problem, say "fuck it" and walk away. I just wanted to try to end this shit Why now? Why not last week? Because I see now it's pointless Ah so you see the light I acted without thinking clearly, before, so I sat down, thought about the good and the bad I was doing the BAD outweighed the GOOD You only hurt yourself on this one. Our sales since the US office has doubled. That good to hear So we're more then well off. Price and performace is what people care about not where I live or my phone number So can this thing between us be dropped? You may do anything you want But you pushed me a little to far You want to fuck around and fight with me, thats cool You can call me every name in the book and 99% of it is true But you don't go after a company such as Stylex when all its doing is offering the best prices and service. I never went after them You did more then once. I never meant to I stand back and see this and I don't like it So, will you follow your own advice on this, "If you have a problem, say "fuck it" and walk away." ? 17h a day I spend here providing support only to have to put up with this shit. I don't think so. I did last week But you pushed and now its too late too late for what? I just want this thing between us to end, I'm not asking to be friends... just to drop this shit ... If you didn't take it to the level you did I wouldn't have a problem Okay, well, whatever you do, just remember, I'm sorry. I have to get some sleep now, it's 3:40am Good luck. Well, I wont fight back, goodnight Session Close: Tue Jun 02 03:41:53 1998